could you help? goin to start it for the first time

Jan 29, 2020 16:18:17 GMT -5 oilleaker1 said:

Make sure it's pre oiled before you add ignition to it. if it runs with no oil pressure, you cook the main and rod bearings. Oilly

pre oiled. I under stand what you mean. on my newer engines I could put  a flat tip screw driver it to my drill and spin the pump.

 but this f head is timed with the cam, so how would one do that ?

 thanks for all the tips, I got 2800$ into parts and the machine shop for this engine.  I can't afford to screw it up in many ways

Jan 30, 2020 15:11:31 GMT -5 oilleaker1 said:

You immerse the oil pump in a can of oil and turn it to prime it. Then re-install . When you install it into the block, you also get the distributor correctly oriented and in static time for number one at TDC. 

Then take a hand pump oil can and back feed down the oil filter line into the engines side gallery. If no oil filter, then where the oil pressure gauge taps into the gallery. Pump the can until you have a hard time getting anymore in. It usually will back flow oil while you re-attach the hose or line. 

When you are sure you got it primed, pull the spark plugs out and spin the engine over with the starter until you see readable oil pressure on the oil pressure gauge.

Now you are ready to turn on ignition and start the engine. If you static timed it right to 5 degrees BTDC and have fuel at the carb, add in choke it it should start immediately. You also should have immediate oil pressure.  

wow, that's an after noon project. I already did the oil pump and gaskets when u say immerse the pump in a can of oil, and turn to prime it. you mean turn by hand or by starter ? by hand I assume.  as for the oil gauge I hope mine works.

 static time ?  oh boy. what's all that ? I guess I need a timing light ? btdc ?  that in not top dead center,that's were I have the crank lined up with the timing tab on the timing cover. so this in going to be a learning curve.

 thanks for all the new knowledge

Jan 31, 2020 12:21:21 GMT -5 oilleaker1 said:

Yep by hand. The gear is spiral that's on the pump. You will see the air exit until oil comes out.

The distributor has a offset drive flat on the oil pump end that mates to the oil pump when it's engaged with the camshaft. You need to "park" the oil pump teeth so that the distributor when dropped down in the block is pointing at #1 plug wire. The engine needs to be at TDC on # 1. The manual has a picture of the orientation that the distributor needs to be.

You either watch the valves or put your thumb over #1 and feel it pushing your finger out of the spark plug hole to find TDC on #1. Then set the timing marks to be at 5 degrees btdc. You the retard and advance the distributor until the points just begin to open. Lock her down, you are static timed.

Got it? Oilly.

ok so wait till you see oil come of threw the spiral teeth on the pump, were the dist goes to, that's what I wanta see right? do that by hand first, turn engine with out plugs .  I have the dist currently at the num one cyc, and tdc.  So I wanta spin the engine till the oil comes up then re do the tdc . set timing marks to 5 degress btdc ? is that on the timing gear cover ? points are gone did the pointless thing now

 thanks are you near western pa  by chance ?? 

Jan 31, 2020 12:34:12 GMT -5 oilleaker1 said:

By the way, to find TDC, you take all the plugs out and turn the engine clockwise looking at the front of the engine while standing in front of the Jeep. Turn it with the fan or with a friend using a socket and wratchet. Hard to do with your finger in the #1 hole by yourself. You need to feel compression and stop the timing marks at the top of the stroke. Then get the distributor pointing at the # 1 wire. There is a oiling port on the side of the distributor that needs to be at about 2 oclock. If you can't achieve this position, you pull the oil pump down, and turn it to re-park in the right spot. I usually find all this first, then pull the pump and mark the teeth and body when pulled straight down and out. Fill it with oil in the can and stop back at your mark, and re-install. Easy peasy eh?. Oilly

jeep engine is currently at top dead center. an the dist is timed as well.  my moses ludel book didn't state any of the post above this to prime the engine. if the oil pump is in and timed already, can I just tune the engine by hand then do the started for the same results ?  I did pre fill the pump with oil when I did the intall.

easy my but..... lol