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Post by rickg on Oct 29, 2016 16:07:38 GMT -5
I'm attempting to separate the two with the ross box "in Jeep". After removing nut and washer, successive light taps on the pitman shoulder with ball peen and long punch-no joy. The obvious correct approach is a puller but no room with unit in Jeep. Any tricks up your sleeve? I'm loathe to beat on it much harder. All this to replace a leaking sector seal..  |
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Post by oilleaker1 on Oct 29, 2016 17:02:30 GMT -5
A block of wood wedged between the engine block and end of the sector, 2 pound hammer and a long drift. You may have to pull the steering wheel and just take it out and do it right. Beating on things is not good. Oilly
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Post by redwilly on Oct 29, 2016 17:05:22 GMT -5
Rick, I used the method John suggested and it came off with out too much difficulty. I didn't try it but if you remove the Drag Link and gear mounting bolts can you rotate the gear box enough to get a puller on it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 17:38:36 GMT -5
A pickle fork (tie rod separator) between the box and pitman arm.
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Post by rickg on Oct 29, 2016 18:44:31 GMT -5
All those are ideas I pondered. Thx fellows, now I know I'm not stupid.. I like pickles too, just need a fork.
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Post by Scoutpilot on Oct 29, 2016 19:20:19 GMT -5
I tried all of the above. Twice. No joy. Wound up pulling the box. Twice.
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Post by redwilly on Oct 29, 2016 20:07:46 GMT -5
Just my .02. In my 30 plus years of doing steering and suspension work I have never used a pickle fork on a pitman arm. I was always taught/warned that the downward force the wedge of the fork places on the Sector Shaft can cause damage inside the steering gear. I don't know if that applies to the Ross Gear Box but I would caution against it. I am assuming if Lee is recommending it he has had success with this method. Again just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2016 20:48:39 GMT -5
Just my .02. In my 30 plus years of doing steering and suspension work I have never used a pickle fork on a pitman arm. I was always taught/warned that the downward force the wedge of the fork places on the Sector Shaft can cause damage inside the steering gear. I don't know if that applies to the Ross Gear Box but I would caution against it. I am assuming if Lee is recommending it he has had success with this method. Again just my opinion. There's no rebel in Glenn, LOL... I have done it but the pitman arm had been off not long before so it most likely was not set in as an original may be. It's only a few bolts more to do the job correctly, may be worth it. Lee |
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Post by rickg on Oct 29, 2016 21:05:01 GMT -5
OK! ALRIGHT all ready! I'll pull the dang column complete! Remove the floor pans clutch/brake pedals/arms. Pull the tranny, remove the rear seat , relocate the spare tire and all that. I can leave in the rt rear wheel cyl bleeder valve right?
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Post by redwilly on Oct 29, 2016 21:21:13 GMT -5
Sure you can leave the rt rear bleeder in but I would definitely pull the L rear bleeder  Lee, trust me I have done plenty of things that I shouldn't have and I might add broken more things than I should have during my career. I have used an air hammer more than once to get them loose when I had clearance issues and I'm sure that wasn't too good for them either. Rick that might be another option to try, between the hammering and vibration it might just be enough to break it loose. The engine block is mighty close if you slip off with the punch or chisel tip. I also don't know what the vibration and hammer effect will do to the inside. |
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Post by brucew on Oct 29, 2016 22:37:32 GMT -5
Just my .02. In my 30 plus years of doing steering and suspension work I have never used a pickle fork on a pitman arm. I was always taught/warned that the downward force the wedge of the fork places on the Sector Shaft can cause damage inside the steering gear. I don't know if that applies to the Ross Gear Box but I would caution against it. I am assuming if Lee is recommending it he has had success with this method. Again just my opinion. My thoughts exactly, but I can add one observation, from a job presented to me in which the owner had tried the pickle-fork trick - the fork had damaged the housing so that the sector shaft seal was a bear to remove, and installation of a new one was impossible. BW |
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Post by oilleaker1 on Oct 30, 2016 5:20:50 GMT -5
Actually, I like Glen's idea the best. Pull the draglink off the pittman arm,Unbolt the Ross box, Loosen or remove the dash column clamp and rotate the column. Use a puller. You already have the fender off. Do the seal while it's facing you. Then position the sector etc. The hardest part is the damn mess. Oilly
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Post by gmcjr on Oct 30, 2016 5:33:02 GMT -5
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Post by athawk11 on Oct 30, 2016 9:52:16 GMT -5
I've never tried this, but wonder if it might work. Make two narrow long steel wedges in the similar shape to a pickle fork. Drive them in from the opposite direction. Similar to setting a door jamb on and entry door.
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Post by rickg on Oct 30, 2016 10:13:11 GMT -5
All good tips and thanks for checking in. Will report back.
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