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Post by Shelby Hazzard on Sept 9, 2021 20:44:51 GMT -5
Good evening, I have a 53 3a that has run great until about 2 months ago.
All of a sudden in started to run rough and would idle properly. I battled with it for 3 months.
Installed new plugs and getting fire through the wires. Installed new points and condenser and gapped to spec Adjusted timing by finding TDC and making sure rotor is pointing to it. Jeep will start many times within 3-5 rotations and run excellent with choke pulled all the out. Air bath is clean Fuel pump is the new type of dual side clear bowl and seems to pushing good pressure Fuel tank and lines have been taken apart cleaned, and reinstalled. Carb has been rebuilt and cleaned thoroughly. I’ve been told it’s a vacuum leak, but don’t really know how to check for them, there can’t be the many places on these jeeps. Mine had all the vacuum run accessories removed. It will start and run great at high idle like it’s a new jeep but as soon I begin to bump the choke off about an 1/8” at a time, it begins to surge high to low….high to low….until it finally dies. I can bump the accelerator and keep it alive but as soon as I stop bumping the pedal it dies.
The jeep had never had this issue before. Any help you could offer would be appreciated.
Thank you Shelby Hazzard Smyrna, TN
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Post by Scoutpilot on Sept 10, 2021 5:24:16 GMT -5
It's likely this issue has been creeping up on you. Do you have a Vacuum Test Gauge? Do you have a Dwell/Tachometer?
To check for a vacuum leak. The motor should be warm and running at best continuous idle. (What is that RPM?) Use a can of starting fluid (Ether) or an unlit propane torch. Spritz the Ether in short bursts at the throttle base, all the way around. When you hear a change in that idle, you've found the leak. While you are at it, test the manifold gasket and every inch of the intake manifold, top, bottom, ends, and studs.
If your idle is over 800, however, you may not hear a change. To verify a throttle vacuum leak you will have to disassemble the throttle body.
Separate it from the bowl.
Invert it and observe the tips of the two screws that hold the plate to the shaft. If these tips have been split or peened over, you will need to shear them off. DO NOT ATTEMPT to remove the screws unless this has been done. The screw heads WILL BREAK OFF and your problem will become worse.
After plate removal, pull the shaft out and using a micrometer measure the diameter of the shaft at three points on both sides of the plate slot. Less than .310" is too much wear and will require a new shaft to be installed.
Next, measure the diameters of both bores in the throttle body. More than .313" is too much wear and will require the installation of bushings.
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Post by oilleaker1 on Sept 10, 2021 6:37:29 GMT -5
I don't know as much as Scout about building a WO Carter carburator, but I've had vacuum leaks. I'll just describe a few problems I've found and let you look at yours in a similar fashion.
Number one are loosening nuts holding the carburator tight and sealed to the thick insulating gasket under the carb. I put star washers under the nuts to stop this.
Number two was dirt/rust in the float bowl plugging up the jets and idle circuit. I pulled the carb, popped off the top and cleaned it out including the slow speed circuit jet. Carb clean spray, air, and remove the mixture needle and clean the circuit at the same time. Make sure and count the turns up from the bottom that it's adjusted at. If you find allot of junk, maybe install a filter to help stop this.
Number three, check that your intake manifold gasket is still good against the engine block. Spraying brake clean around it will sometimes show a leak by changing the idle. This may or may not work for you. A good visual exam and checking the nut tightness that hold it is good. I've seen them crack the casting also.
Number 4 was a leaking vacuum hose leading to the vacuum wiper. (you may not have this since you say you removed stuff) Wiper motor itself leaking too.
Number 5, if you have a bad vacuum advance diaphram on the distributor (If you have that type)
Number six is as Scout says, worn carburator throttle shaft leaking by.
Number seven that I just discovered this summer, the cap and gasket at the bottom of the carburator well the slow speed circuit jet is inside of had come loose and was sucking sir. It's located on the front of the carb at the bottom of the long skinny jet.
Hope you find it, Oilly
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