I know what you are telling me, and it's going to have waves in the box for sure. I'm going to grey bed line the inside so I can use it. Undercoat the fenders against rock stars etc. but I'll drive this one. I'm not saving it for someone else, I'll put some wear on it. No color sanding and buffing either. Why buy a new car, build a Willys pickup .
I'm at the point in the work on this thing where not much progress can be seen. I've already beat dents out for 2 full days on the box and have at least two more to go, then weld in some front stake pocket patches where they rusted through . I replaced the rear mangled ones. The rust in the floor looks like smallpox was there. Got to skim coat with fiberglass filler to "leveling compound " it back to a reasonable state. I added up the time to blast the entire vehicle, frame ,body, and small parts. 20 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At the normal blast rate of 250.00 per hour, that's 5000.00 in cost. No one sees this. They just don't get it anymore. Just the automotive single stage paint -------red, one gallon 450.00 bucks and that does not include hardener and thinner. The grey for the body was 400.00 per gallon, and no thinner or hardener. The sandable catalised primer is similar in cost. You are looking at 20 grand for a finished vehicle that you yourself have done all the work. If you found someone to do all this, it would cost close to 80 grand to complete. So, if you find one done the way you would like it, and know what you are looking at, (few do) it's way cheaper and easier to just buy one at auction. My problem is there aren't any in my color with a Kubota diesel in them------LOL. Crazy? I don't care. You only go around once and can't come back to do what someone else thinks you should do. Why would you drive to southern California and buy a project CJ3A and then work your butt off re-building it? That's just crazy! Baiting you now Muley!
I was looking at the M37 running engine / transmission that I sold which simply can be dropped in and fired up. Next to it were two gallons of grey paint. The paint cost more than the engine!!!!!!!!!!! . Now that's just crazy.
It's time to quit building overpriced stuff and go drive them. I Have Miles To Jeep before I Sleep. Not a joke, but for real. I hope you all are coming. If you don't, you are missing the good times.
Oilleaker hit a good point!, why build when you can buy cheaper!, very true,,,,,,, BUT!, as stated your buying someone else's dreams, not yours and would still require modifications and back to correct standards as "WE" are anal bastards in our own way ...... My self, I really do not have anything as perfect as most others on here, probably ok at best body wise, mechanically I strive for perfection!, if I purchased a "Finished Rig" I'd end up redoing everything mechanical anyway mechanically simply because I plan to use it, and want it dependable and want to have it correct!, so I might as well start from scratch, "Bend and Spend", I know it well!
Forgive your enemy, but remember the bastards name. (Scottish proverb)
Post by oilleaker1 on Nov 26, 2017 17:45:16 GMT -5
Today, Al my '53 Willys pickup begged me/ told me, to adjust his valves. I noticed a change to his exhaust tone. Puff Putt putt. In a steady routine. Adjusting the carb mixture resulted in no change. Then the big one: the starter went 1,2,3 -------and 4 with a different sound.
Off with both covers (F Head engine) .018 for intake up top, .016 for the exhaust in the side chest. Sure as rain, all the exhaust were getting tight. Two of the intakes were also. The new valves and seats must have bed themselves in. If you listen to your pal, and get to know him, he will tell you.
So, buttoned it all back up, and shazaaaam! Purrs like a kitten. Like new. Don't you love it? Oilly
Deep in bodywork doldrums. Been at it every day and you won't see what's been fixed. Bare metal up with rust and dent repair, welding up cracks, shrinking stretched sections, cutting out and patching, dollying out waves, ridges, dents, and damage caused by idiots . I've never seen a Willys pickup that wasn't used and abused. They were work trucks. When replaced by a newer model, the Willys got delegated to shit work, fencing, hauling rocks, and then left outside by the fence to be hailed on, baked by the sun, rained and snowed on. Or, they "improved" them with cobbled up engine swaps. Hummmmm, I did that. There won't be any lightning improvements for you to see for a while. Once the metal work is roughed out on every damn piece, then it's filler time. Chain gang labor. It all looks terrible until you put the last coat of sandable primer on and block it all out. Then it looks like you really didn't do anything since blasting it all. Ahhhh but the paint will make it pop.
I ordered the bed liner kit the other day. Kinda cool how you mix the body color paint in with it to match the rest.
For now, it's cave it and pave it. There is a wear spot on the shelf where I take my brain out, and put it back in. Yuk!
I almost took some pictures of the massaged sheetmetal and then thought-----they still won't have a clue the pain and suffering it took to get it back. I worked all day on one rear fender and still have to weld the major tear in the corner while it's bolted and fit to the box. The previous owner backed the fender into something solid and bent the rear bottom all the way into the tire. Then he beat the crap out of it with a hammer to get it away from the tire. If it wasn't for my bodyshop friends tools, I might not have got it straight. He has a shrinker/ stretcher that is air operated. It clamps to a sheetmetal edge and either pulls the metal together, or apart. He can take flat sheet metal and make trunk drip rail or flanged edges with it that match the curvature of the body. . He has a bead roller and english wheel , metal brake, and all sorts of cool vice grip type clamps. Take a bent in fender arch and try to straighten it. You'll understand in about 5 minutes what I'm talking about. I'm just a backyard Jeep fixer, but I want this pickup bad enough to build it. I've seen few decent ones and you wonder what they did under that paint. Coverup jobs and scams are all over the place. Be careful what you buy. Never hand over the bucks until you crawl the perpective vehicle and look. The inside of stuff tells the story. I still get excited thinking about putting a nice clean , fitted, and painted pickup together. I have many plans for this.
As Bruce pointed out, this is the last frame up I want/can do. I plan on selling my shop and taking my tools and stuff home. I'll still screw around, do mechanical stuff and small stuff, but the cost to do a frame up is now insanity. If I sell down and buy another rig, it will need to have a decent body. I like patina'd original stuff now better than a restored perfect example.
Now the last thoughts-------I have miles to Jeep before I sleep. ------------------for those who are with me---------------until we Jeep again!
Post by oilleaker1 on Dec 12, 2017 19:52:22 GMT -5
I've now reached a end to the metal work. I've mounted the cab again, and will test fit the doors, hood, grill, and front fenders. Then match up the front splash panel. Next will be the radio two post antenna, and spotlight. I'll post you pictures through Muley when I get to that point. Crazy amount of work, just to look, but if you assume-------------you will most likely fail. No mud work will be done yet since bending, re-welding, and more adjustments could be necessary. That's why you test fit. Oilly